laundering. it became this perfect vehicle for laundering money and then in the 2000s, 2004 and really actually starting in the early '90s but going up to 2004, trump starts having a series of bankruptcies and he finds it incredibly difficult to get money for seat capital and that's where the russian mafia sees an opportunity and that's where they actually enter the trump organization and leasing space in trump tower and actually working directly for trump. >> it's opportunistic. i want to bring you in on this. you have written a book in the circumstances and a review of active measures in which he writes this about the film. russia has shown a willingness and ability to involve itself in the politics of other nations not only with the view to promoting interests directly, something plenty of countries lobby for but to fracturing their societies and weakening their political systems, spreading animosity with the groups, keeping from posing a