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national cathedral. vladimir, it seems that john mccain specifically picked all of the people who will either be eulogizing him or playing some role in the ceremony, and he did it with a purpose in mind. he picked george bush and barack obama. two men who beat him in the race to be president as presumably a symbol of the way this country can come together even after a stinging election loss. the people who spoke yesterday in arizona paid tribute to him and showed that you can overcome diversity, overcome disagreements. he had democrats speak on his behalf. he had an african-american football player talk about the unlikely friendship between him and john mccain. he had joe biden get up there and speak, one of his long-time rivals, also one of his dearest friends. why do you think john mccain chose you to be a pallbearer? >> well, first of all, it's deeply personal and heartbreaking, an honor to be able to do this. but i think it's actually very

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