big fish. it would have been implausible to think they would have received it only to tell stories about michael cohen. >> do you agree with that, paul? >> i do. we know that federal prosecutors think anybody who was involved in this scheme to pay hush money committed a federal crime. that's what michael cohen pled guilty to. it implicates president donald trump by can't be charged while he's in office. other people have exposure and they were given immunity including weisselberg and pecker. who else would know about it? could only president trump have known? probably not. so i think the target now, other people who were high level officials in the campaign including don jr., ivanka, and jared kushner. >> if it was more than individual payments, a dine of transfer everything you have, that might have been a bigger deal involving more people, a larger undertaking than the