guy. it is interesting to see there have been discussions about that. i don't know how that will play into the pardon talk. >> the washington post is reporting about the second trial. it says it is set for september in august and expected to last three weeks and on the basis of a list of 1,500 possible exhibits will delve far more deeply into how he operated as a lobbyist and consultant than was done in the just completed trial in virginia. the time line and exhibits were included in a joint filing on friday night by manafort's defense and prosecutors with special counsel robert s. mueller, iii. this trial, for those of us who are not lawyers, that he could plead guilty, he could cooperate or he could do neither and go on with this trial. but legal watchers i have talked to have said this is a tighter case and possibly a better case for the government than the first trial. >> yeah. and the government also i think is coming in with a lot of momentum after the eight convictions it obtained in the prior case. now we know it was only one juror who stood in the way of convicting on 18 counts. i watched this trial. now they have the chance to go in and prove-up some of that same evidence that will come in noo stve the money laundering no d tthat w charges. now we will hear a little bit more about the work he did as a lobbyist because that is the substance of the foreign agent registration act. it makes sense to me that this is the moment when they might be