dangling pardons. some people have suggested that it is coming close to the line almost of a bribe. i mean, is he offering manafort basically a pardon in exchange for, you know, him not cooperating? so, i mean, you know, could the lawyers be talking to each other? maybe. i think he should not be talking about it at all. it is dangerous territory., >> but do you interpret this as that, that the president is sending messages out to manafort, don't cave? >> yes. it really does seem that way, particularly after the trial, particularly when at the trial manafort's lawyer in the closing argument was making this argument that he had sort of said they weren't going to make and were supposed to not be making which was how unfair it is and he's being select i havely prosecuted. also directly playing into what