havely prosecuted. also directly playing into what trump is saying, which is poor manafort. he's being targeted because he worked for me. that's all a big set-up for he can pardon him. it goes to this question of why isn't manafort pleading guilty? one possibility is that manafort couldn't plead guilty because if you plead guilty it would be harder for trump to give him a pardon. >> that's interesting. looks like he might be interesting. >> he is this poor, persecuted guy. it is interesting to see there have been discussions about that. i don't know how that will play into the pardon talk. >> the washington post is reporting about the second trial. it says it is set for september in august and expected to last three weeks and on the basis of a list of 1,500 possible exhibits will delve far more deeply into how he operated as a lobbyist and consultant than was done in the just completed trial in virginia. the time line and exhibits were included in a joint filing on friday night by manafort's