they were great american. i know what crazy is. these weren't crazy. he insulted me and insulted everybody in that room. i said somebody should run against john mccain who has been, you know, in my opinion not so hot and i supported him. i supported him for president. i raised a million dollars for him. it's a lot of money pep lost. he let us down. he lost. never liked him as much after that because i don't like losers. but, frank, he hit me -- he's not a war hero. he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't c captured. >> does donald trump owe you and apology. >> i don't think so. i think he owes an apology to families and those who have sacrificed in conflict and what mr. trump says he prefers to be with people who were not captured. a great honor of my life was to serve in the company of heroes.