i mean, it didn't change john mccain and the inner fortitude that he had and you think about that ford -- fortitude to get to the awful experience of being a prisoner of war and that courage it took and he showed that throughout his life. >> kelly ayotte, thank you for calling in and we share the nation's grief with you. but for you it is deeply personal and thank you very much for taking this time. >> thank you. andrea, i want to say, for cindy and john's family and incredible people and i'm just so sad for them. and for all of us tonight. a real loss for the nation. >> well, we all feel that same sense that this is an extraordinary moment, extraordinary family and they have shown such strength but the