involve manafort i think it will, but there's a narrow window there where the president can still say, this is stuff unrelated to the campaign. this is stuff unrelated to collusion. i'm not pardoning for personal gain or self-preservation. i'm pardoning because paul manafort's been treated unfairly and has two trials, et cetera, et cetera. of course, paul manafort chose two trials. not the government. you can see how this can kind of play out a little. >> in the second trial in d.c., i can tell you. the first trial was in virginia. in the second trial i promise you there ain't going to be too many trump supporters on the jury pool. >> natasha. >> final point, the juror that's going around and making the news, the cable news rounds this week, who did serve on the manafort jury paula duncan, is arguably, like, a huge trump supporter and she said she stands by the president, knows this is unrelated to the mueller investigation but manafort is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.