the government did what the government likes to do a lot more with a lesser quality witness which is get a conviction, get him to plea, and then dangle that 5 k 1 substantial assistance motion in front of him until they give him what they want but if you are a vip, if you have just critical information, that's when the government will actually go through the hoops it has to to give that person immunity. you have to be very, very important. i would love to ask glen the ratio of people that he convicted, cooperated as a witness and then maybe they got a substantial assistance motion versus the number of people he gave full on immunity to. glen, it's got to be, it's got to be way more convictions, pleas and then possible cooperation down the road than it ever was full immunity, right? >> absolutely, danny. we would rather hold people accountable for their crimes, put pressure on them quite frankly and then, you know, put them in a position where it's in their best interest to tell the truth because the more truth they tell, the more benefit they receive.