so is that an indication that the federal government, the prosecutors have recordings of michael cohen and donald trump discussing these two particular crimes? >> i think it is. and i also think that there's additional recordings -- i know there's additional recordings relating to conversations that michael cohen had with keith davidson relating to these two payments. there's a lot of recordings out there. >> and keith davidson was stormy daniels' original lawyer, and he was involved in the other payoff through the "national enquirer." >> that's correct. keith davidson served as counsel for miss mcdougal and for the counsel for miss daniels before i took over her case. and so i think that this notation is a reference to those recordings. lawrence, again, we're in the second quarter of a four-quarter game. this president's in trouble, and we're coming for him because i'm going to take his deposition under oath. we're going to get michael -- >> the president's deposition. >> the president's deposition. i'm going to get michael cohen's deposition under oath. and i'm anxious to disclose all of this evidence to the american people so they can determine who's been lying to them and who's been telling the truth. >> and that's because your civil suit to obtain stormy daniels' release from the non-disclosure agreement is still active and that's where the deposition would be. is michael cohen to your knowledge cooperating with robert mueller? >> i do not know that, the answer to that question, but i know he's cooperating with sdny. >> and why today did he go into court and plead guilty without an actual sentencing agreement