developments in mr. cohen's plea agreement will not preclude him from an appearance before our committee as needed for ongoing investigation. >> john heilemann, not surprisingly, they'd like to hear from him again. >> not surprisingly at all. and look, i mean, there's obviously going to be a lot of focus now, there already has been a lot on michael cohen. i do think it's important, we're seeing this reporting coming out, maggie haberman, you cited the tweet earlier where she says the white house is now much more focused on impeachment than it was before. and i think it's important to understand part of why. they have spent an extraordinary amount of time and effort since may of last year trying to discredit the special counsel, trying to discredit the deep state, now trying to discredit john brennan. all these people who relate to the thing the president likes to talk-b which is the collusion issue, the russia story. again, we all think that's a legitimate story but they've spent a lot of political energy on that. what they have not spent political energy on because it's really almost impossible for the president to do this, is to try to discredit michael cohen. what are you going to say?