issues were discussed with the president. he was in the room when the comey firing was discussed. and finally, he would have been privilegy to conversations about the cover story trying to explain that the trump tower moegt was not a meeting with the russian government over the election. >> we'll play the moment heard from around the world on "meet the press" this weekend. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> i'm not going to be rushed into having him testify so he gets trapped into perjury. when you tell me that she testify because he will tell the truth and he should not worry, that's so silly. it is somebody's version of the truth. not the truth. he didn't have a conversation -- >> truth is truth. i don't mean -- >> no. truth isn't truth. >> so rob, is that just the era we've entered where the president's lawyer can go on television and say things without consequence? >> of course, brian. it is a bizarre statement.