entity, does it raise the standard of these officials even when they're private citizens? for example calling the president's actions treasonous? >> he took that back. i think what everyone has been pointing out is that trump has made security clearances into this political football that he can grant to his friends, and take away from his enemies with very little justification from a national security standpoint. these are very serious things that shouldn't be messed with by a president. he has the power to do it. that doesn't mean he should use that power. previous presidents haven't used that power, and there's a reason why. >> look, i don't know that john brennan has walked it back. i think he's tried to explain what he meant, but i think he stands by using the word treasonous taking from the interview with rachel last night. i mean, would you not agree to that, john? i'm sure you saw it. he tried to talk about the capacity in which he used that