thing to say. many people say it absolutely wasn't. and, of course, we have to question the president's judgment here in commenting on the trial and saying that, not ruling out a pardon. while the jury is deliberating. the idea the jury was not sequestered is fascinating in light of the judge's odd comment yesterday he did not realize how much attention this trial would get. that was a very bizarre comment that took a lot of people by surprise. because, of course, this is an extremely high-profile man. he worked for the trump campaign. the judge should have known this was going to draw a lot of media scrutiny. i think there's a lot to be said about whether or not paul manafort has been expecting a pardon and whether or not he's embracing now the president's support. >> any potential signaling, katie? even thinking back to what we played earlier. my colleague peter alexander shouting at the president, asking if he's considering a pardon. president says, i'm not going to talk about that and goes on to