prevention sites. as you said, vermont is a progressive state in a lot of ways. are you finding a lot of support for these ideas? >> yes, but i want to point out some of those issues i don't know why we call them progressive. you know, to expect everybody to have health care and have a living wage, that seems like -- >> i'm canadian. i think of these as normal platforms, not progressive. >> there you go. >> i found something interesting despite the fact that you said you were not aiming to make history, you did say that your experience has made you more sensitive to marginalized people and marginalized communities, has really informed the way you would think about how you would govern. >> yes. i will tell you when i -- after i transitioned, you know, it's one thing to learn -- to know the gender hierarchy. it's another to experience it. and i will tell you just one