published because survivors fought for it. i'm joined now by a man who's helping with that fight, attorney david insco. he represents four survivors of abuse, including a man named todd fray who petitioned the supreme court to get the documents published. david, thank you for joining me. the scope of this is remarkable. i guess what i'm struck by is for the entirety of my reporting career, i have reported on these sorts of stories. i remember before i was a reporter hearing about them. we've at least been hearing about this for 30 or 40 years. how is it possible that this grand jury report talks about things that have happened in the last decade on the scale that it's still happening? >> it's simply shocking, ali. this report categorizes abuse that's taken place for more than half a century in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. and the active cover-up of it by the hierarchy of the church.