>> i kind of ignore the showing in all of that. that's "melodrama" that will play itself out one way or the other. 24 people, 400 people, that is what it is. how that is ultimately framed in my view is what we have relied on in the past and that is a president who speaks into the moment and clarifies and defines where we are as american citizens when it comes to this type of hate-filled response to fellow americans. and the fact that the president is giving us sort of, you know, sort of a lightweight response on twitter. hate racism of all kinds. okay, but we're specifically talking about this, all right? can you narrow it down for us just a little bit with respect to what's happening in your front yard? and the fact that he still can't do that, that to me is the lesson that every american should take from what we see this weekend. >> mark morial, to michael steele's point, the president is