charlottesville? >> i personally couldn't say one way or the other. i can tell you what david duke and richard spencer and jason kessler, and i believe matthew has said, which is the administration has given them the go-ahead, the thumbs up, the wink and a nod. that's their words, not mine. i have no information about it one way or the other. >> okay. susan bro, remembering your daughter, heather heyer, as we all are today, and this weekend. i appreciate you coming on the show and joining us here. thank you for making the time. >> thank you so much for having me. it is an honor. >> on sunday, of course, the one-year mark of the deadly fights in charlottesville. msnbc will be sharing the story of a former white supremacist who has dedicated his life to reforming others. "breaking hate" airs sunday at 9:00 eastern on msnbc. coming up on this show after the break, the final frontier might be the next frontier for the pentagon, but what will the