now, "the daily beast" is reporting that the former "apprentice" star seek receicre recorded conversations with the president. conversations that she has since leveraged while shopping her book. jonathan capehart is here with me, pulitzer prize-winning writer for "the washington post." he's also an msnbc contributor. what, sir, do we know about these reported omarosa tapes? >> we just know that apparently these tapes exist. craig, i'm laughing because we all knew this was coming. >> did we? >> come on. >> you knew that omarosa was secretly recording him? >> not that she was secretly recording. but she's saying that happened and this is reported, i am not surprised. i interviewed omarosa in august of 2015, the first weekend after donald trump appeared in his first presidential debate. i brought her on because i was subbing for steve kornacki and