yanakovich. we see the fate being linked. when things went south for him in 2014, all the sudden manafort found himself on the rocks. he was very much deeply financially connected to this pro-putin autocrat who ended up having a troubling political fate. it's interesting to see the parallels of those two men's rises and falls. >> franklin, you've followed that career. your views? >> they were really close. he was helping run the country. he had a hard pass that gave him access to the inner -- i found it to be extremely interesting to watch because there was this filial relationship between the two. they were extremely close. he was manafort's inner circle. and so the -- just the drama, this notion that was described in the beginning of manafort sitting there, staring at this