>> reporter: yeah, it's really interesting. when gates is testifying, he never looked at manafort, he looks at the lawyers and the jury. but manafort himself stairs directly at rick gates, you might say staring daggers at him. from time to time, the judge calls the lawyers up, and rick gates is just left there dangling in the wind sitting alone awkwardly, not knowing quite where to look. manafort continues to stair at him, and gates looks around the room, waiting toer this awkward silence to end. >> i understand that all of the assurances the president was given about how this trial would have nothing to do with him have been erased in robert mueller's prosecutors and the idea that he's seeing the kinds of questions and the threads that could be pulled through if the curtain were pulled back on the vast neness of the entire investigation, news that you and robert costa have reported today that rudy giuliani is getting ready to get ready to respond,