>> ken, coming out of the courtroom when this has been a drama series of events, this is still our lead story because it's so important, i wonder if you could tell us a little bit more from your reporting about the tensions with the judge. it's not all good news for mueller, although they say they are methodically moving through this case, walk us through the case and what you glean from that. >> reporter: judge ts ellis is a judge who likes to impose his will on the courtroom. our commentator says some are happy to be umpire and others interjekts himself as shortstop. he stops prosecutors about being leading or compound. the judge tried to rush the prosecutor, greg, and said, let's get to the heart of the matter.