talent. the truth is i'm an a conservative businessman who stands with and voted for president trump. >> it's like a stalin trial now. it's unbelievable. when you wore a collectivist tie you're out of order. it is the new reality of the republican primary. when al and i were do republican politics, you lineup what you can use in the general election. >> you're the tax cut guy. >> you're the business guy, you're going to fix school. not only your party, but swing voters. now you come out of this thing from the trump church in the republican primary with a big trump halo. in the general election democrats all hate trump. in the independents he's upside down. what's your magic light sword in the primary becomes an anchor around your neck in the general. >> so much of this is stylistic. they want to be seen as pugelist inside the gop.