and that is a clear reflection of the president's policies and more importantly his tone and his messaging and how he deals with people. >> but not easy for your side either because you remember the headlines from the a.p. that said republicans united, democrats divided. you might be divided into what might be called technicolor for republicans it might be seen as binary, right? trump or no trump. >> i don't think we're as divided as most people think. and you are starting to see numbers improve for us in states like wisconsin, michigan and minnesota, that is very important. i think donald trump may have single handedly sunk that congressional campaign by going against lebron james. >> showing he does still not understand politics. >> the point is all politics is local. >> are so what will you learn from a party from what is happening in ohio 12 then? >> i think the trump effect, the negative trump effect is built in. we still need to talk about big