government says we don't think it is necessary to give over the a-file because there is a whole other list the aclu wants. it is bickering about information when remember we are talking about 572 kids that are still sitting in u.s. government custody after being systemically taken away from their parents and held by the u.s. government. that's what it is about. 572 kids are still in custody of the u.s. government. >> jacob, i know you have been following this story from the beginning. you have been doing encredibinc. what are you looking for this? >> we have to hear what the judge says. the aclu when i was in court last friday down in san diego, do you really need all this information to unify these kids to their parents. it is going to be critical to see what the judge says as far as proposals by the government. if you clap back at them for a