by one hundredth of a percent, i end up getting pinocchios, right. false stories all made up, lies, lies. no witnesses. no nothing. all big lies. i better say think, otherwise they'll give you a pinocchio. and just remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. i don't like pinocchios. >> i'm joined by mike lupika. margaret, why is it according to the fact checkers getting worse? >> well, he may feel more cornered as the manafort trial begins, as, you know, giuliani has waited 11 days for a response from mueller to his offers of an interview and what might be in there. which may mean that he's a target or not. and just the pressure of the