the opening day. >> not the playoffs yet, but regular season. >> it's opening day without the bunting, in both senses of the word. so i was watching everything very carefully, including the prosecution team. it's very interesting, because it's in the eastern district of virginia, the irascible famous judge, judge ellis, wanted somebody who had practiced before him to be the lead attorney. so it wasn't mueller's team, per se. >> oh, interesting. >> it was the local guy from the eastern district. and that showed shrewdness on the part of mueller and his team. >> you know, if that's what the judge wants, then give the judge what he wants. >> yeah. and then also they have so many charges across tax and banking and so forth. my sense of juries having covered a lot of trials is they will find a few. there's multiple, multiple, multiple charges. they're not going to buy everything the prosecution is going to lay out there.