>> right. >> it's very interesting. but the thing that is really starting to dawn on me, it's obvious in a way, the novelty is now gone, we can agree. we have what is a sustained attack and i don't think we even understand the full consequence of this. this is starting to really take hold in a way i don't think we first saw. i don't know where it's going to end up. i hope there is some kind of pull back, but i'm not expecting one. >> salen aera peters articulate has happened, not happened, cause and effect as peter articulated in this climate journalists were targeted. >> absolutely. we saw at his rallies during the campaign. katy tur had a lot of verbal abuse, she had to be escorted out by security. i'm worried because we're coming up on a year of charlottesville, the anniversary of charlottesville. he's about to go out on the road to campaign for republicans in the midterm elections and have multiple rallies just like this where this is just going to be