bothers the president the most, that he does not have someone loyal to him like he thinks obama did, or jfk did running the justice department. he wants someone who will do what he wants in the justice department. the thing i don't understand, i tried to press the lawyers on, the president could call the justice department. he could call rod rosenstein, who actually oversees the investigation. sessions doesn't. sessions doesn't have the authority to do it because he's recused. et could call rosenstein and say shut this down, if not, i'm going to fire you and put someone else in. i don't understand if the president is that concerned this is a witch hunt why he does not do that. >> and clearly it is not a witch hunt. bob mueller referred three cases that include and involve democrats to your old stomping grounds, the southern district. where do you think a prosecutor, an investigator who is not sort of rattling around in this echo chamber, where do they see this conduct? where does this point them toward? >> well, it confirms one of the critical elements of an obstruction of justice investigation, which is the