the four star general has had a tumultuous position at times, most notably getened flatt-- ge flattened in the trial and going without a chief of staff if he were to leave. john kelly's tenure as chief of staff would be among the longest in history if he stays on the board through 2020, guys. >> interesting, that is a long time away, especially in this white house. joining us again, white house reporter for political reporter andrew restucian, let's talk about chief kelly. this is a man bounced around for a few weeks as being checked out, so to speak. what can we see in terms of staffing personnel at the white house as this die nam wick john kelly unfolds? >> reporter: it's a notable