pot at the end of the ray bow for an investigation is a conspiracy. chuck, you first. >> yeah, sure. i guess collusion just irks me because it's not. >> you're not easily iraqed. >> i don't tend irk easily. collusion means agreeing with somebody else to do something. that's what a conspiracy is. there's synonyms. the fact that collusion doesn't appear in the criminal code as mr. giuliani asserts is utter nonsense because conspiracy does. what the mueller team is investigating is whether folks in the united states conspired with the russians to interfere in our election. call it what you want. when they finally charge it, it will be charged as conspiracy. the notion that collusion isn't a crime is to mislead people. for the court of public opinion but not for a court of law. >> i just want to follow up with