if there are these other women why don't they come forward with their stories? they're looking at what happened to stephanie clifford, aka stormy daniels. they're worried about putting themselves out there for public scrutiny. it's as though his tactic has changed. he's calling on coy hen to be t one to be the messenger on this piece. >> what we're seeing here is we're either seeing some real crazy strategy or some very smart strategy. >> not possible, right >> the smart strategy, even the little audio we heard, they're building -- they're establishing how close cohen was to the president or before he was president. in the sense that if cohen does make a deal and has something there, they're going to shoot at him like giuliani did last night, saying he's all this and that. they are on the tape that we did hear talking about his divorce papers, talking about which black minister to use in the