dictated misleading statement in his son's name, or there's a tape and it shows that the president knew that "the national inquirer" had the rights to this story about an alleged affair, and every time they say they don't know anything about it or the story is false, it's fake news, then time after time, it turns out it's real, and then they just say, move on. so we'll see what happens, if they can enhance the tape, i guess. >> let's turn to a former fed. all right, cynthia, a nation turns its lonely eyes to you. short of hiring a sky writer, as i've said before, it appears mr. cohen is anxious to work with the feds. two questions for you. how does this tape being out there affect that bid? and secondly, what do you make of the tape? >> well, i don't think it does mr. cohen any good to have released the tape. what we've seen over the last couple of months is cohen trying