to put it onto a hard drive and provide it to defense counsel. judge, okay. bottom line is the government wants to provide this to the defense right away immediately so they can begin to prepare their defense in the courtroom. the problem we're having is, your honor, agreeing on a protective order. a protective order from the government's position is essential, not just for the normal reasons of protecting third parties' personal identifying information, but also to protect potential ongoing investigations. and just given the sensitive nature of this case. in our discussion, the question that seems to be overlying the conflict between the two party, to put it frankly, is whether or not the defense counsel wants this information right away so he can prepare for a defense in this court or defense counsel wants this information so they can use it on cable news. the reason i put it that way, your honor, we proposed a basic protective order that says the information can be used for defense in this case.