by his people and republicans in congress to discredit the special counsel and the investigation so people won't believe the report whenever it comes out. and yet the special counsel from whom we hear no leaks, we just see the 35 indictments, the guilty pleas as is proper is apparently developing a very, very solid case of criminal conspiracy of the trump camp -- various people in the trump c campaign. maybe the president and russians subverting our laws. these tapes may be evidence of the president being involved in a criminal conspiracy to hide evidence of campaign finance violations or worse. i think they're flailing out in different directions because they see the walls closing in. >> let me ask you this -- if michael cohen ever did things that relate to bob mueller's