>> and do you know if some of those employees are still there or all of them were able to get out? >> i have no idea, ma'am. i have no idea at this time. >> shawn, thanks so much for talking to us. i know at this point a lost people are still gathering out here, everyone's trying to get a hold of him, but others are really not sure what's still unfolding out here. this gentleman as well we've been talking to him. i know at this point he's very emotional. everyone just wants to make sure their fellow crew members as they're called come out. it is a wait and see situation for them. we'll send it back to you. >> a lot of emotion out there. thank you, jane, for sharing that and getting some more information about the layout of the store and what that worker was doing escaping to the back. can you imagine you're at work and you hear gunfire and you hear yelling and running -- it's just a nightmare there. we are still waiting for news. we had talked to gil leyvas in news chopper 4 a little earlier and they said they had information, police did, the suspect might be getting ready to surrender. we also have team coverage in