to address russia, and at this poi point we've ceded too much territory to russia and unless we start fighting back soon, it's almost too late to reverse it. if trump doesn't come out at least willing to take the swing, and yes, probably he won't. but if he's not willing to at least say that he knows what is going on and that he stands up for the fact that a foreign adversary is attacking the american population, which is really significant, the indictment was incredibly detailed as david ignatius just said. and i think that we need to wonder what else there is that we aren't seeing. this is targeted at american citizens directly. if our government is doing nothing to defend us, then somebody else needs to step into that space. in the meantime there's an awful lot that needs to be discussed. >> it seems like this entire meeting will be more of a charm-off and both gentlemen are walking into this meeting with charm as their offensive tactic.