performer. political performer. once he got into the white house, he shunned the performance aspect to drill down to the policy and get into the policy aspect. he was an excellent president from the standpoint of leadership and family man. he didn't do the performance. donald trump always has the performance and he also has his cast of characters do the performance just like him. are we getting to a point now where the american people are going to expect a reality show? that this performtive becomes a new normal? >> i hope not. i think american consumers are conditioned to expect a reality show and something that is made and produced for television. i would also say that there are a lot of aspects of this plot for lack of a better word that are negative for the president. right? as a part of this reality show, you have what's going on on the border. i think that americans are