instances mueller and other special counsels release what they call superseding indictments. as they find out more, they expand the story. what's interesting here is that this puts wikileaks right in the middle of it. they have messages of wikileaks reaching out to guccifer 2.0, a russian intelligence front, and saying, hey, we want these documents. we want to get them out before the convention to do maximum harm to hillary clinton and to help donald trump. so we see here, you know, presuming these messages are accurate, direct evidence that wikileaks was doing this in league with the russian intelligence, whether they knew it was russians or not. but to help trump and to hurt hillary clinton. and that was as opposed -- that was regarding the documents that came out before the democratic convention. they went even further with the podesta documents in october closer to the election. >> i should note something you said there, these are all allegations, this is an indictment.