though trump is clearly much more unhappy with the germans broadly on defense, on trade, on energy, and with merkel specifically as a leader than he is with the uk or with prime minister may. and also keep in mind nobody in the conservative party wants this job right now. it's a poison chalice, right. so if she were to have a vote of confidence in the conservative party right now, she would actually win it. >> she's survive simply because you don't want to do it in the middle of this. that would be the argument? >> yep. >> don't change horses in midstream. >> yep. >> let me ask you about fallout from nato. i know behind the scenes there are a lot of official u.s. channels trying to calm allies down. what have you heard? >> the meeting was hijacked by president trump when he's in the room. he only wants to talk about the issues that he wants to talk about. wasn't using his advisers.