for the u.s. on the geopolitical stage. >> david corn, bell i suppose never be able to trust what was said in the one-on-one meeting between donald trump and vladimir putin. can't trust donald trump's account of. can't trust vladimir putin's account of it. that leaves us with the translators. they will be getting chased for the rest of their lives by reporters and historians trying to figure out what these two actually did say to each other. and there's the question of how much can we trust the translators? we just may never know. >> i don't think so. it's like that great song from "hamilton." no one was in the room where it happened. and as ruth so aptly described, it really seems like putin has the upper hand at least psychologically in playing trump. trump fawns over this guy. he wants acceptance from putin. he sees the world as a club that he and putin perhaps can rule together and he shows nothing but dismissiveness toward our