>> she and miked a had a heated discussion and the next morning when she woke up he was gone and he hadn't taken a vehicle. >> ellen told the detective i have she was pretty sure he moved to phoenix, home of his lover dave simmons but more recently she believes he moved on to the caribbean. >> she said he's probably on an island somewhere. >> we had looked at land on st. croix. as far as i knew, i figured he had gone to st. croix. >> and that that's where he was with dave simmons. >> correct. >> in fact, ellen said she actually spoken with mike over the years. >> mike had called a couple of times. you heard his voice. >> yes. >> and wherever he was, he was maybe not angry at you anymore but at least the two of you were talking in a sort of non-angry way about the kids? >> i think we were still angry. i think i told him we were still angry. >> but he was gone and wasn't