the american values. still hard to believe that such a call could actually take place. nbc hasn't been able to independently verify. can you judge if that sounds like the president. what does stand out is we've asked the white house a number of times, how did this happen? was this in fact the president's voice? they have declined to respond and certainly if it were not the president's voice, they would have ample opportunities to tell thaus it was the wrong thing. so figure this out for yourself how you want to address that. it was one of those instances where the president apparently speaking to someone he's known for many years, we're in new jersey, the president is a property owner here and bob menendez is a long-time senator from this state. the president will not be seeing the protests in washington, by virtue of being here for the weekend. >> they're happening right outside his door. kelly o'donnell, we'll see you again. kelly was mentioning the nationwide protests today, planned over president trump's immigration policy.