it's vulnerable, it's not hardened. we don't often think -- >> what does that mean? >> has there been any thought to security, security drills or that in the past or is this a newspaper that would have thought of that? why would you? >> well, we didn't have to until this happened. quite frankly the threat against him he wished i would die. certainly at some point like that there's no question in my mind that it's a physical threat. so when that happened, yes, you know, i took a photo of mr. ramos who i had never met, brought it to the front desk and i said, be on the lookout for this guy. if he comes in dial 911. i made sure everybody on my staff knew that we had this complaint. so his face was familiar to all of us and did we think anything would happen? no. but it was a precaution that for the first time we had -- the first time we had taken. this was in a different building than where it's happened. we even put up a gate in the