in lonely hez. the constitution grants them the right to dignity. for more i'm joined by pete williams, nbc news justice correspondent, charlie sykes from the weekly standard and jonathan turley, university law professor. what a group. pete, we've been talking about thissing about three hours. i want to skip politics for about five minutes. i think the democratic party is loaded for bear on there baby. talk about justice kennedy. you're from california, you went to stanford. understand the nuance of what a california republican, a northern california republican is all about. i think kennedy's the essence of that. >> he's from sacramento. remember it was president reagan who put him on the supreme court. initially he voted with the conservatives. one of his first breakaway votes was on the core question of roe versus wade. he's been a pretty consistent vote on abortion rights ever since. he up held a ban on partial birth abortions but on the core