nervous when members of congress came through. we could say hi to them, how's the food, and that's it. but talking to the boys, who 13 to 17, some were really small but 13 to 17 age boys are a certain type of kid, they're boys, not very verbally necessarily, some more willing to talk and smile back. some looked really distant. what that worker was able to do to talk to jessica is what i wanted to do. as a mom you wanted to ask them questions, how are you? where's your mom? when's the last time you saw her? it was hard not asking the questions but we didn't want the tour cut shot. >> cal perry, i want your observations of that visit? >> it looked like an operating base you would see in iraq. although we were told if these kids were to run from the camp they would be pursued. i thought, like joy said, all of