>> you received in backlash over the photo in general, in that this child was actually not separated from their family "the washington post" first reporting on that. what is your response to that? >> well, i have never claimed in the capital, ever, nor in interviews that they were separated. all i knew was that the mother was patted down, the child was crying, and they were taken to a facility, a processing center. at that processing center, many children have been separated from their parents, but i never said that, and i never would have, because i didn't know. what this picture does mean is that it has a lot to do with president trump's zero tool rants policy. that continues. >> i also see a child who is very scared of the fact that her mother's personal space is being violated by an individual that she doesn't know and who's probably been on a very long and arduous journey. >> that's right. they had come for a month on that journey. i spoke briefly with the mother,