is the "national enquirer" gave a lot of very positive coverage to donald trump and a lot of very negative coverage to his opponents. why did that happen? how did that develop? that was one of the things we were interested in figuring out. in my reporting, what i found when i was talking to people was that there were actual stories that were sent prior to publication over to michael cohen with the express purpose of making sure that they were okay with him. >> does this -- is this -- because we heard so much here in new york. donald trump and gossip columnists. is this like a similar thing where trump the celebrity, trump the apprentice star has a relationship with a celebrity tabloid and that just folds into the campaign? is that kind of what happened here? >> i think that's one way to think about it, right? it's totally acceptable for a celebrity or a reality star or someone who is, you know, a new york real estate developer, to make lots of calls to gossip columnists and want to be a source for lots of information. the rules change a little bit when you are a candidate.