important because they live in another country. i have comfor all children, especially the kids separated from their parents right now. that said, i have been truly aghast at the vileness of the rhetoric of dehumanization that we have seen this week. what do you think about it? >> in the past they've been more careful about their language quite frankly. but this is what you have to do. if you're going to intern children and mothers and fathers you have to have the population subdued by the notion that these are less than human, they are not us, they are subhuman. that's why you use words like "infestation," like vermin. trump has been doing this for a while now, and he's had to turn up the volume because his offenses against these people have also gotten worse. so you are now seeing in its full glory, in its full fashion what the face of fascism, what this looks like, what this deep racial animus. and he has to keep going because he has to keep feeding this to